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Rob · 06-08-2008, 08:36 PM

^ That is very interesting .....I like the way you placed the grey parts at contrasting angles.

Thanks for posting this

Rob · 06-09-2008, 09:51 AM

Mazda Nagare concept (1996)

Cadillac has very cleverly re-interpreted styling themes from the past into the new vehicles ....but the results are not 'Retro' at at .....it is thoroughly contemporary and quite brilliant.

1967 Cadillac Eldorado

Even the rear window is broken into two separate planes.

1970

Rob · 06-10-2008, 12:45 AM

Lyubov Popova: The jug on the table, 1915

Lyubov Popova: Painterly Architectonics, 1916

Lyubov Popova: Painterly Architectonics, 1918

El Lissitzky, Proun, 1922

El Lissitzky, Prounenraum, 1923

El Lissitzky, Proun, 1923

Ivan Kljun, 1920-1921

Vladimir Tatlin, 3rd International Tower (never built), 1918

Rob · 06-10-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shonguiz

Btw Rob, you really should start some blog..

hmm, I see the 'new objects' thread has virtually become like a blog. That was never my intention for that thread. I guess I just get excited and keep posting stuff I like. I apologize if it seems to be like a blog. I will 'cool it' from now on -- after all, this is a forum for discussion.

shonguiz · 06-10-2008, 07:14 AM

No let it stay as it is.

Rob · 06-10-2008, 08:41 AM

coolraoul · 06-10-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypersonic

Hello shonguiz,

This was not supposed to be an Audi thread

....but I will try to explain why I personally appreciate Audi design so much.

I have come to realize more and more, from reading a lot of discussions about the appearance of cars on GCF, that I tend to look at car designs a little differently from many people on the forum.

There is an important difference between design and styling,

Audi's styling is very subtle ...and generally not very emotional. I can understand that many people find it to be quite boring compared to recent BMWs and Mercedes-Benzes.

The value of Audi design for me is in the very well-resolved details -- clean surfaces and well thought-out join lines -- the way the parts all fit together.

My appreciation for Audi really started with the Audi A6 (C5) model (1998-2004)

I am still struck by the modernity of this model -- in some ways I like it more than its successor.

The rear of the vehicle is my favourite part -- the simplicity of the surfaces and the way the bumpers fit into the side panels -- all so beautifully and thoroughly resolved. Look at the way the C pillar is so seamlessly integrated into the body.

The number of elements used has been kept to a minimum; this, together with the flat surfaces of the panels, gives the vehicle a very clean appearance -- it is very modern.

Also Audi was one of the first to use a straight diagonal line at the rear door opening ...rather than the door following the circumference of the wheel arch -- BMW also did this with the E46. This is a very bold detail.

This is funny Rob, because this particular Audi A6 is one of the very few car I really hate. And I mean, hate with passion. i fond its design absolutely disgusting.

The whole car is so soft that it looks like it has melt like an ice-cream under hot sun. It has no structure, no line, nothing.

The bumpers are like taken out of another car, but not fitting, so Audi needed to adjust it by adding another piece of plastic...of black plastic, to try to enlighten the extremely heavy design... But that was so awful they painted it finally, on the last versions...
BTW these Audi always have a different colour for the bumpers, not perfectly matching the colour of the body, which caused it to look even more horrible...

Audi seemed conscious of the many design problems, and tried to give more lines to the bumpers in the FL version...

The old-looking, traditional front, with the soft and round rear... the incredible black thing around the license plate (obviously inspired by the Renault Espace III, 1996, who however painted it on most versions.... )

Concerning the transversal rear doors... Take a look at this Renault Laguna I (started in 1991, here it is the FL version with different grille and headlamps) to see who inspired Audi on this... Did the Audi design team at the time came from Renault?

Honestly, this is the worst German design since a number of years for me. I just can't stand it. Don't know exactly why...

I love the A8 on the other hand. And I am among the people who criticize audi's design, because every single new car looks almost exactly the same as the other cars in the line-up...I like their styling, but get bored to see it coming over and over again without any change...

For the rest I just have to admire your design culture and knowledge. Very interesting stuff!

Rob · 06-10-2008, 06:35 PM

^ thanks for the Renault example Amaury ...that is helpful.

I guess the aesthetic appeal of the A6 is a matter of personal taste.

It is starting to look a little dated now, but in 1998 it seemed right for the time.

Rob · 06-11-2008, 09:14 AM

Jurgen Bey

TOBIA SCARPA Fantasma, 1960

BMW

Christo and Jeanne-Claude

This is a neat little light ...
"Egle" by Michel Boucquillon, LED light

Va Va Voom · 06-11-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypersonic

^ thanks for the Renault example Amaury ...that is helpful.

I guess the aesthetic appeal of the A6 is a matter of personal taste.

It is starting to look a little dated now, but in 1998 it seemed right for the time.

The avant isn't as dated! the saloon definitely is now

06-08-2008, 08:36 PM	#11
Rob Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,618 Thanks: 892 Thanked 719 Times in 401 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration ^ That is very interesting .....I like the way you placed the grey parts at contrasting angles. Thanks for posting this

06-09-2008, 09:51 AM	#12
Rob Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,618 Thanks: 892 Thanked 719 Times in 401 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration Mazda Nagare concept (1996) Cadillac has very cleverly re-interpreted styling themes from the past into the new vehicles ....but the results are not 'Retro' at at .....it is thoroughly contemporary and quite brilliant. 1967 Cadillac Eldorado Even the rear window is broken into two separate planes. 1970 Last edited by Rob; 06-10-2008 at 04:05 AM.

06-10-2008, 12:45 AM	#13
Rob Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,618 Thanks: 892 Thanked 719 Times in 401 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration Lyubov Popova: The jug on the table, 1915 Lyubov Popova: Painterly Architectonics, 1916 Lyubov Popova: Painterly Architectonics, 1918 El Lissitzky, Proun, 1922 El Lissitzky, Prounenraum, 1923 El Lissitzky, Proun, 1923 Ivan Kljun, 1920-1921 Vladimir Tatlin, 3rd International Tower (never built), 1918

06-10-2008, 07:14 AM	#15
shonguiz Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,331 Thanks: 132 Thanked 140 Times in 95 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration No let it stay as it is.

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Rob Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,618 Thanks: 892 Thanked 719 Times in 401 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration Last edited by Rob; 06-10-2008 at 09:50 AM.

06-10-2008, 06:35 PM	#18
Rob Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,618 Thanks: 892 Thanked 719 Times in 401 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration ^ thanks for the Renault example Amaury ...that is helpful. I guess the aesthetic appeal of the A6 is a matter of personal taste. It is starting to look a little dated now, but in 1998 it seemed right for the time.

06-11-2008, 09:14 AM	#19
Rob Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,618 Thanks: 892 Thanked 719 Times in 401 Posts	Re: Themes/Ideas/Inspiration Jurgen Bey TOBIA SCARPA Fantasma, 1960 BMW Christo and Jeanne-Claude This is a neat little light ... "Egle" by Michel Boucquillon, LED light

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